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Origin of the Expression “You are Fired!” [Business Folklore]

February 3, 2010 By Nagesh Belludi 14 Comments

Source of the Term 'You are Fired'

Origin of the expression 'You are fired!' The term ‘fired’ is a colloquial expression for dismissing a person from employment. It became more popular as a result of the NBC reality show The Apprentice where the host, American businessman Donald Trump, eliminates contestants for a high-level management job by “firing” them successively. In 2004, Trump actually filed a trademark application for the catchphrase “You’re fired!”

Some sources suggest the expression may have originated from the verb “to fire,” as in “to discharge a gun.” However, legend has it that the phrase originated in the 1910s at the National Cash Register (NCR) Company.

John Henry Patterson, founder of National Cash Register (NCR) NCR founder John Henry Patterson (1844—1922) is widely recognized as the pioneer of sales management and for developing formal methods for training and assessing salespersons. In spite of all his genius, Patterson was quirky. He sought total control of his surroundings, imposing his personal values on employees. As a food and fitness fanatic, he had employees weighed every six months. He often dismissed employees for trivial reasons just to deflate their self-confidence and, soon after, rehire them back.

Patterson’s employees and customers branded him abusive and confrontational. Patterson once dismissed an executive by asking him to visit a customer. When the executive drove back to NCR headquarters, he found his desk had been thrown out on the lawn. Right on time, his desk burst into flames. He was “fired.”

Thomas Watson Sr. was “fired” by NCR

Thomas J. Watson Sr., former President of International Business Machines (IBM) Famously, NCR’s star sales executive Thomas Watson Sr. (1874–1956) met a similar fate. In 1914, Watson argued that NCR’s dominant product, mechanical cash registers, would soon go obsolete. He proposed that NCR develop electric cash registers. Patterson resisted the idea. He warned Watson not to overstep his boundaries and demanded that Watson focus on sales only and intrude into product innovation. Following an argument at a meeting, Patterson dismissed Watson. In a fit of rage, Patterson had workers carry Watson’s desk outside and had it lit on fire. Watson Sr. was thus “fired.”

Watson Sr. still believed in the potential for electric cash registers. He joined a smaller competitor, Computing-Tabulating-Recording Company (CTR,) which soon grew into International Business Machines (IBM.) Watson Sr. led IBM for forty years and turned it into the world’s leading technology company.

Source/Source: Keynote address by Mark Hurd, then-president and COO of Teradata at Kellogg School of Management’s Digital Frontier Conference on 17- and 18-Jan-2003. Teradata was previously a division of NCR Corporation, the company Patterson founded.

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  1. Sally S. says

    October 17, 2012 at 10:08 PM

    In the last paragraph there is mentioned a man called Peterson. Unless there is another man (which should be clarified and introduced if that is the case) this is a typo of Patterson. The person who edits these needs to pay a bit more attention as this is such a short story. It is hard to take the information in it as accurate when it wasn’t checked for errors prior to submission.

  2. Nagesh Belludi says

    October 18, 2012 at 7:00 AM

    Sally, thanks for your notification. Typo corrected.

  3. Todd says

    April 1, 2015 at 12:08 PM

    this article is entirely inaccurate. The term you’re fired originated with Henry Ford who would send sales reps deliberately out of the city and then have the laborers working at his building haul all of their belongings including their desk to the back loading dock and set on fire. When the salesman or the employee who had fallen into bad graces returned to his office to find it vacant, he was simply told you have been fired. Do some research for chrissakes

  4. Nagesh Belludi says

    April 9, 2015 at 10:56 AM

    My research suggests that it was NCR founder John Patterson who initiated this phrase. I added my principal source: a keynote speech by Mark Hurd, the then-executive of NCR / Teradata in Jan-2003.

  5. Jonathon says

    April 21, 2015 at 2:49 PM

    Both Ford and Patterson accumulated the idea from people before civilization even existed.

  6. Edward C. Zimmerman, Jr. says

    February 13, 2016 at 10:20 AM

    I heard many years ago that the term FIRED was an act by which an employer burned the employee’s house down because of some trivial way of revenge or to get even. I relate the word FIRED as being terminated due to disciplinary action. You cannot be FIRED from an employer if you are not employed by that employer. You cannot be FIRED if your employment is terminated because the business is disbanding. You cannot be fired because of poor business practices due to budget cutbacks. You cannot be FIRED because of the lack of business. Yet we use, or miss-use the term FIRED so freely because it is so dramatic without the responsibility of telling the truth. Most employers have lied on the reasons of termination of employment simply to cover their own shortcomings and blame the employee. However many of these businesses try to avoid this practice due to wrongful termination law suits. The fact is your employment was terminated, probably not your fault at all, and you should stand up for yourself if anyone refers your termination as being FIRED when it had nothing to do with disciplinary action. Doing damage to the property or dipping your hand into the pot without deserving compensation, stealing, etc. may deserve the act of being FIRED.

  7. WILL says

    September 17, 2016 at 3:20 PM

    I don’t think Donald Trump made it “more famous” lol…. In that case McFly made it famous in BTTF part 2!

  8. Simon Tomsett says

    January 19, 2017 at 10:48 AM

    “Fired” has an English root and relates to the practice of dismissing employees in 18th century England. The tradesmen carried their tools in sacks, and if they were dismissed for being lazy/incompetent/troublesome they were “sacked”. If they were dismissed for dishonesty, they were “fired”, which meant their tools were burned to prevent them being employed.

  9. Brent says

    October 17, 2017 at 3:40 AM

    Former NCR employee. See Leviticus: Chapter 10 verses 1, 2. Nadab and Abihu were first to be “fired”.

  10. Mike Ray says

    June 13, 2019 at 2:47 PM

    The terms fired and sacked are even older than article makes out. Both terms come from old English naval ship yards from around the time of the Spanish aramarda.

    Both were related to the dismissal of carpenters. If a carpenter was rubbish at his job he would be given the sack. In other words he was given his bag of tools and told to go away. If a carpenter was totally useless he was fired. His bag of tools was put on a fire and burnt therefore unable to practice carpentry anywhere.

  11. Dennis says

    July 8, 2019 at 7:55 PM

    It went back further than that. I heard that the phrase “Fired” came from a time of Clans. If you were exiled from that Clan, all of your belongings including your property were burned, leaving you with nothing.

  12. cynic says

    July 23, 2019 at 2:40 PM

    I read the same as Dennis, fired is as old as exiled.

  13. Clive says

    February 19, 2021 at 3:06 AM

    Folklore says it’s the burning of your house in a community. I live in a part of England that still has a lot of thatched cottages. They burn well.

  14. Ray Gooch says

    October 27, 2022 at 3:39 PM

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

    Thomas Watson is a famous character essential to Adolf Hitler’s Holocaust, and he was well rewarded for enabling some of the most remarkable atrocities the world has seen.

    A true Merkin! 😉

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